Any Data on the Phoenix Travel Trailer?

Question: Dear Luise: Hi from Texas Luise: I have recently purchased a vintage travel trailer I am sure it is a orphan. I have no numbers anyplace on this little thing. But I did find three of the original tags “PHOENIX” HECKAMAN MFG. INC. NAPPANEE, IND.  It is a rectangular black tag. There is two more, larger tags that has the bird the name Phoenix and smaller print Nappanee, Indiana. Both are broken but I will try to put one back together again. The big black PHOENIX tag in the top front middle is still there. In good shape. Also I have one oval tag that states AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF TRAVEL TRAILER & CAMPER MF’RS INC. I found a HECKAMAN MODULAR HOMES website. I am going to contact them and see if there is any information anywhere about these camper. Mine is a 1961 but that is all I can offer to anyone doing the same thing I am doing with no good solid info. Thanks M.

Answer: Dear M.: I would also write to the Chamber of Commerce at Nappanee and ask if they have any history or know of anyone you could contact for more data. Blessings, Luise

42 Responses to Any Data on the Phoenix Travel Trailer?

  1. T. September 27, 2011 at 12:48 pm #

    hi my husband and i recently purchased a phoenix travel trailer we have no idea of the year make or model we do know from some stickers on the inside door that it was used in 69 but as to how old we don’t know we are trying to figure where a vin number is located so we could possibly get a title to it if u know please let us know we have tried to locate the mfg only we haven’t been successful and if u have any idea how to get a title for it we would appreciate it. T.

    • Luise October 9, 2011 at 6:08 pm #

      T. Remove the rust from the tongue and the paint and sand it carefully. Sometime the Vin is embedded there or on the front beam.

    • Stephen Brang April 25, 2013 at 12:20 pm #

      HI
      My wife and I just purchased a 69″ Phoenix Travel Trailer but can find nothing about it online. I believe the model is the “Caribbean” did you find any info on these? Please email me back at brang2u@gmail.com Steve Brang

      • Luise Volta April 26, 2013 at 7:45 pm #

        I don’t have anything on it but am publishing this in case someone else does. That happens here sometimes and is worth a try.

      • Donna Kenny July 5, 2016 at 5:41 pm #

        They do have a facebiok page with a Carabean (? Spelling.) shown on it. Donna K July 5, 2016

    • Allen Zimmerman October 25, 2013 at 8:20 am #

      My father was a dealer for Phoenix travel trailers and truck campers in the 1960’s.
      I do have several Phoenix brochures. As nearly as I can determine, they are from the ’63-’66 era.
      I would be glad to scan them and send scans to anyone interested. (no charge, unless I am swamped with requests, which I doubt.)’
      We lived in suburban Indianapolis and about once a month my dad and I would get up in the wee hours on a Sat. morning and drive to Nappanee to get a camper or trailer and drive back home.
      Sometime around 66 Mr. Heckaman decided to start building manufactured housing and sold the camper business to an associate named Stutzman. The name of the product at that time was changed to Overland and a few years later to Overall after complaints from some remnants of the old Overland automobile company.
      AZ

      • Danita November 3, 2013 at 6:04 pm #

        Hi Allen, I looked at a vintage Phoenix travel trailer today. I made an offer and am waiting (and hoping) to hear back. I have been wanting an old camper to restore. I have a vision. My husband and I were taking a nice long drive and nearly wreck the car when we saw one just sitting in the yard. I am so hoping they will sell it to me. it is in bad shape but I know with some TLC I can save it. I had never heard of the Phoenix brand until today. Shasta’s and Scotty’s seem to be the more popular ones…but this little Phoenix is the same era an same charm. I would absolutely love to have the information you have. I wish I had taken a picture of it. You can email me at sandradkl@yahoo.com. Thank you so much!! Danita

      • Pam Ishman April 14, 2014 at 10:28 am #

        Allen,

        I would appreciate any info you could send on the 1963 Phoenix trailer. I have one the I want to get close to original with perhaps a few tweaks and a scanned brochure would certainly be helpful.

        steam09032000@yahoo.com

        Thank you so much!

        Pam

      • kurt April 19, 2014 at 11:37 pm #

        I know this is an old posting, but do you still have stuff for the Phoenix I just bought one. Would like to get any and all info we can.. thanks

      • Maria Salazar December 13, 2014 at 2:05 pm #

        Hi I have a 1968 Phoenix. I would appreciate a copy also!

        • Irv Gonzalez December 19, 2014 at 5:12 pm #

          I have a 1967 Phoenix camper. Please forward a copy to me also.

        • Donna Kenny July 9, 2016 at 6:30 pm #

          Hi Maria Salazar . We just got a 1968 Phoenix. The model is a Rally Sport. What model do you have? Any parts & restore tips?? Ours is in great shape!! We are so blessed!! Hope you get this, I think you wrote your post 2 years ago. Did you ever get a copy of Allen Z’s Phoenix Brochure?? I’d love a copy too. Perhaps we can exchange pics. Today is July 9, 2016. Sure hope we hear from you…. We live in Southern Virginia…Exciting…..Donna & Doug Kenny

      • Jason Baird January 19, 2015 at 9:44 pm #

        Hi,

        I just bought a 65(?) Phoenix. If you still check this, I would be interested in any scans of literature you have. he_whoknows@hotmail.com

        Also, after an exhaustive search, I found where the vin is, or most likely where you might find it.

        VIN# (stamped with die/hammer) found on the coupling of the tongue, just left of the crank on the top. On my trailer, the coupling is a separate piece that was welded to the trailer. If you are looking down, the number starts at the left edge of the coupling near where it meets the tongue and runs toward the front. I had to scrape it down to the original meter to read it. 1 coat of paint would almost cover it up completely.

        The vin consists of 3 sets of numbers, xx xxx65 xxxxx . I assume that the 65 I found may reference the year model.

      • Gennia March 3, 2015 at 10:03 am #

        My husband and I have a 1960 we think, phoenix camper made in Nappanee In. We have not found any information online about them. Could u please email any information that you may have to genzdell@gmail.com if you don’t mind? Thanks so much.

      • Deena March 13, 2015 at 3:45 pm #

        If you have any information on 1967 phoenix I would love to view it. We are going to restore one as well. If not a 67′ something close. I need to know the weight. I have a Ford Windstar minivan, do you recommend pulling the camper with a minivan?
        THANK YOU!

        • Donna Kenny July 9, 2016 at 6:37 pm #

          We just got a 1968 Phoenix Rally Sport. It’s 14′ not counting the tongue. Our title says the weight is 3000 pounds empty weight. You posted a year ago. Hope this site is still active… Any other web sites or tips?? Thank you….Donna & Doug Kenny in Southern Virginia

      • Kristy May 16, 2015 at 6:18 pm #

        Hello Mr. Zimmerman,

        I am fixing up a Phoenix travel trailer, and I, too, would just love to have a copy of the brochures you have scanned if you re still up for sending them. Thank you. tknewell@sbcglobal.net

        Thank you agin!

      • Debra Anchors May 30, 2015 at 5:22 pm #

        Hello Allen, we just acquired a 1963 Phoenix, sitting in a field here in MI. Would you please send any information you & your Dad have about the trailer? I am happy to reimburse you for the materials. If you can, and would like to use snail mail, I will be happy to send you my street address. Thanks loads!

      • Shawn June 20, 2015 at 10:30 am #

        Hi, I know this is old, but do you still have scans of the brochures? I have a 66 Phoenix and am looking for more information. My email is shawnleevoss@gmail.com . Thanks!

      • Tracy CNtanucci August 11, 2015 at 4:54 pm #

        I would like a 1965 Phoenix brochure. I have a friend that just bought one to restore

      • Dawn August 16, 2015 at 1:52 pm #

        I would love info please. It has been very tough finding info. I recently bought a 1963, 15′ travel trailer, and am very excited to renovate it.
        Thank you!

      • Bryan October 19, 2015 at 9:05 am #

        I just bought a slide in camper made by heckaman. Its a phoenix. It is in very good condition. I am trying to find information out about this company. if you have any further details or have any slide in brochures that you have scanned I would love to see them.

      • Poppy G January 3, 2016 at 8:55 pm #

        I also have a 67 Phoenix trailer. It’s not the typical can ham shape. It has a humpback. I’ve been renovating it on and off for about a year now. I wasn’t able to find a vin number but it was registered as a Tenn. utility trailer. I haven’t found any information except what is posted my Mr. Zimmerman. If anyone has any information on the Phoenix model or manufacturer please reply.

      • Matt Nemec January 4, 2016 at 12:30 pm #

        Allen,
        Can you send me some info on the Phoenix trailers
        Mine has a overhang on the front and I cant find anything about it.
        Thank you so much.
        Matt Nemec

      • Shirley Bynum March 11, 2016 at 1:51 pm #

        Allen, this is a reply to your post a couple of years ago re: brochures on Phoenix campers.
        We just bought a 1967 model#225, we would appreciate any info you have available would be happy to pay a small fee for your trouble and mailing. Thanks so much

        Shirley Bynum

      • greg webb March 22, 2016 at 10:34 am #

        i would love a copy of something close to 67 as possible, thanks greg

      • Douglas Kenny July 9, 2016 at 2:58 pm #

        Allen, Was wondering if anyone is still following this? I picked up a 68 Phoenix Rally Sport in pretty good shape. All original inside. Very little water damage around window, Looking for brochures if you still have them thanks.

      • Donna Kenny July 9, 2016 at 7:07 pm #

        Hi Allen Z, We just got a 1968 Phoenix Rally Sport. It’s 14′ not counting the tongue. I’m hoping that this site is still active. Our Phoenix is in Beautiful shape…the counters are red with Red plaid?? upholstery. Hope you are still sharing Brochures etc. We would love any date close to 1968. I know you posted a few years ago. It’s July 9, 2016 today. Would love to hear from you. We are Donna & Doug Kenny from Southern Virginia, our email… dmknva3@gmail.com

      • Jim Lalli August 16, 2016 at 3:56 pm #

        Allen, I know this thread is old, but I was wondering if you might be able to send me copies of the brochures. I have a 1960 that my 13 year old son and I are attempting to restore. My son has autism but, like me, loves old things. We do many prjects together and he’s would be very impressed by you brochures. I hope this message finds you well and thanks in advance….

        Jim & Pierce Lalli

      • Daniel December 6, 2016 at 8:04 pm #

        Any chance anyone has information or any of the brochures mentioned previously. I would love to get some information. I’m rebuilding one right now.

        248-343-2651
        Dbewing@gmail.com

      • Brooke December 10, 2016 at 6:50 pm #

        Hi Allen, We just got a 1967 Phoenix Camper of some sort!? Wondering if you still are doing brochures? I would love to see what you have and also would be happy to pay if you would like, paypal works great. Thanks, Brooke brookealison @ Comcast.net

      • Andy February 13, 2017 at 8:19 am #

        Allen , we are also working on a 1965 Phoenix. It is 17′ long Would be greatly interested in your scans. I live just north of Indy and could pick them up if necessary.Andy

      • Jan Tucker August 30, 2017 at 3:39 pm #

        Hi. I just found my serial number and can’t decipher what it means. Can anyone help? It is 166-603. I have a canned ham pheonix and would love any info on it. Allen do you still have the brochures?
        ANy insight would be greatly appreciated.
        Thanks,
        Jan

  2. Tom Pearson October 17, 2011 at 9:39 am #

    Hello Luise
    I recently purchased a 1966 Mobile Scout and would like to know who to contact about the thin metal siding to match the original, Thanks

  3. Beth Pockat April 18, 2014 at 1:20 pm #

    Mrs. Volta,

    My husband recently purchased a 1965 Phoenix 15ft camper(Pull Behind). I have looked all over the Web and can find nothing. I read where you wrote that you had some info on them. If it is not to much to ask, could you please email or fax me something on them. I would be more than happy to pay you something for the info. We are hoping to restore her back to her original beauty, but as it stands now it is hard to tell what that was.
    Thank you. Beth

  4. Rex Conaway May 10, 2014 at 7:27 pm #

    I make vintage trailer emblems and It looks like I may be able to reproduce Phoenix emblems. If there is any interest for this please contact me at

    rexconaway@gmail.com

  5. Daina Lankford January 1, 2015 at 7:14 pm #

    Looking at a 1971 15′ Phoenix RV. Asking $6,000. Is that reasonable? Needs new tires, no appliances, steps are missing, fixer upper but decent condition. Claims there are no water leaks. Please advise.

    • Luise Volta February 15, 2015 at 10:57 pm #

      I wouldn’t take a chance on it. Leaks sometimes don’t show and dry rot can be present. The unit would be hard to give away if it was free, it seems to me. Blessings, Luise

  6. Deena March 13, 2015 at 3:24 pm #

    I am looking at buying a 1967 phoenix can you tell me if there is a website to find the manual or any information on it? Like the weight, how to replace items for it and such? I am going to gut it but I still would like to know how much it weight to confirm my van can pull it.
    Thank you so much!!

  7. Shawn June 20, 2015 at 10:33 am #

    Hi, I know this is old, but do you still have scans of the brochures? I have a 66 Phoenix and am looking for more information. My email is shawnleevoss@gmail.com . Thanks!

  8. John October 4, 2015 at 7:16 pm #

    I purchased a camper last year that I was told was a 1968 Phoenix camper. There was no title with the camper and when I pursued the tiltlewith the Secretary of State for a new one, I found it was registeredpreviouslyand it was actually a 1965. I have searched many sites and have not found any literature on it. If anyone have any literature, I would appreciate anything you have.i am also trying to find replacement emblems for both the front and back. If anyone knows how I could replace them, I would appreciate the advise!

    John

  9. Misty Davis March 29, 2017 at 9:43 am #

    Hi! I know this thread is pretty old but I’m hoping that someone might have information on my 1968 Phoenix Cyprus 19 ft. I found all the original Manuels for all the appliances in my trailer and registration papers from 1971 on that how I found the model make. But otherwise nada! I did find out the vin is 5 numbers. That I found out through the DMV. Any information would be great! Thank you

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